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@smithnd @TauchDirtyToMe @soup303 @nyy_db @CharlesRobinson @AllbrightNFL Thank you for clearing that up. That ambiguity alone in your explanation on how a timeout is called and who can call it. That tangent you went to is the only thing I had issue with. Your key point is with @TauchDirtyToMe .Refs are the timekeepers they start and stop the clock.